Letter from William Henry Seward to Benjamin Jennings Seward, March 22, 1838
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Letter from William Henry Seward to Benjamin Jennings Seward, March 22, 1838
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Letter from William Henry Seward to Benjamin Jennings Seward, March 22, 1838
action: sent
sender:
William Seward
Person
Name: William Seward
Birth: 1801-05-16
Death: 1872-10-10
Person
location:
Batavia NY
Place
Name: City: Batavia
County: Genesee
State: NY
Country: US
Place
receiver:
Benjamin Seward
Person
Name: Benjamin Seward
Birth: 1793-08-23
Death: 1841-02-24
Person
location:
Westfield NY
Place
Name: City: Westfield
County: Chautauqua County
State: NY
Country: US
Place
transcription: sgl
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Batavia March 22nd 1838
My dear Jennings,
I was able to send you only a hurried note yesterday.
My journey here had something more than its usual share of troubles. Mr Rum- sey
Name: Stephen Rumsey
Birth: 1785-06-01
Death: 1873-07-31
and myself fixed upon Silver Creek
Name: City: Silver Creek
County: Chautauqua County
State: NY
Country: US
as the termination of our first days
journey. But with diligent exertion we were able to get no further then
a miserable tavern four miles short, when the night became so dark
that we could go no further. We slept as we might, and next day reached
Silver Creek at nine o'clock. Oliver Lee
Name: Oliver Lee
Birth: 1791-12-23
Death: 1846-07-28
told me the name of the man
who passed to another man (his son and the son to me) the fifty dollar
counterfeit bill which I lent to Mr Kibbes
Name: William Kibbe
Birth: 1767-03-04
Death: 1841-08-04
last fall. As he made
the case a clear one I wrote to the offender that if he did not
pay $50. good money for it first within ten days I would prosecute
him in a way which would be neither pleasant or profitable.
Bear this in mind if you can that when I go next to Chautauqua
Name: Chautauqua, NY City: Chautauqua
County:
State: NY
Country: US
I may redeem my promise. I forget the individual now but
he lives in Hanover
Name: City: Hanover
County: Chautauqua County
State: NY
Country: US
.
After plodding until two o'clock through the
mud we overtook the stage wagon at Evans
Name: City: Evans
County: Erie
State: NY
Country:
centre 23 miles
from Buffalo
Name: City: Buffalo
County:
State: NY
Country: US
. Entered therein and arrived at eight PM at Buffalo.
There were to be two coaches to leave at 10 that evening and none
until ten the next evening. But the two stages were to carry ten
convicts under the charge of two sheriffs to Auburn
Name: City: Auburn
County: Cayuga
State: NY
Country: US
. I revolted
at this association conjuring up all imaginable associations of dis-
gust but at last submitted to the necessity, and having packed one
coach with the least offensive five, I set off at 10. The smell of the
dungeon hung round the convicts and I was obliged to ride with
my head out of the coach. Their conversation was still more offensive
than their dress. We rode six miles when a back wheel came off
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and the coach came down violently. We had the villains out and
raised the coach but lo the very tip end of the axletree had broken
off, so that we could in no way fasten the wheel. After walking a mile
watching the wheel we rigged a rail outside of & proping against
the wheel and this continued our journey two miles further when
the accident recurred causing the driver and an outside passenger
to fall off by which misfortune they suffered a severe bruising.
We never left our ship and the Sheriff drove his crew of chained
convicts before him. I could of course not refuse to aid him in
this disgusting business. In that way we arrived at Williamsville
Name: Williamsville City: Williamsville
County: Erie
State: NY
Country: US
.
There they got into the tavern and drank and gloried in their
crimes until I was no longer able to endure my position. The
stage driver got a wagon, loaded it with his precious cargo
and I left them setting out at two in the morning. After sleep
& breakfast I hired a wagon & horses for $10, to bring me here –
as I supposed I was undoubtedly detaining Rathbone
Name: Jared Rathbone
Birth: 1791-08-02
Death: 1845-05-13
& Schermerhorn
Name: Abraham Schermerhorn
Birth: 1791-12-11
Death: 1855-08-22
here. All day from 9 AM to 8 PM I rode in a very cold damp
day and then arrived here four hours after the coach I had
abandoned. Mrs Carys
Name: Margaret Cary
Birth: 1787-08-11
Death: 1863-06-22
bright face, cordial heart and all
other needful appliances restored me.
Schermerhorn was waiting, Cary
Name: Trumbull Cary
Birth: 1786-08-11
Death: 1869-06-20
& Lay
Name: George Lay
Birth: 1798-07-26
Death: 1860-10-21
on the lookout & Rathbone
wrote me he could not come.
I submitted my papers yesterday to the Board and after a mor-
nings discussion and dinner handed them all to Mr P J. Van Hall
Name: Peter Van Hall
Birth: 1799-12-23
Death:
. The whole aspect of the officials indicated that the objec-
tions I made were anticipated. We argued the matter until
we eventually understood each other. Mr Van Hall has just
given me his ultimatum. Which is to assume my account and add
interest at two per cent from 1 January lost $2500. To which
I have assented. Tomorrow morning I go on to Auburn. Your papers
if they come here will follow me to Auburn. All is settled
here between us & the Holland Company, without further papers.
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Friday Afternoon.
My dear J. I have your letter & thank you for your prompt
attention to my request about Mr. Lewis
Name: Abner Lewis
Birth: 1801-08-07
Death: 1879-10-12
certificate. The docu-
ment I think will be satisfactory.
I am annoyed at your morbid feelings about the $800.
I do not see how you magnify it into a mole hill. The matter
is now reduced to a certainty that the estate will pay me a
handsome profit in any event, and that it will be made
forthcoming. The salary I proposed you should take is no
otherwise material except as not diminishing my means to pay
for a property abundent to compensate you for all your
time trouble outlay &c. I have not the most remote concep-
tion how you can suppose that because you have expended
$800 more than $1200 you are thereby impoverished. As to that
and the small note I have against you I am sure I am able
to without them. I would have proposed to you (to
relieve you of all solicitude on that subject) to reduce the
affair to a shape in which these debts would be extinguished
if it had not been that I could not do it without giving the matter
a shape in which it might embarrass the arrangement I propose for your
family. Besides this it is so near a close now that I see no reason to fear
we shall divide the property and my interest come to me substantially
paid for so that I can at once make with you an arrangement entirely
satisfactory to you. I pray that you do not give yourself an[ y ]
Reason: further trouble
or vexation about this matter. The schedules made by Humphreys
Name: George Humphreys
Birth: 1814-03-15
Death: 1885-06-09
will be as soon as received here examined. Write to me at Auburn
until the first day of April next.
Your own brother
W.H.S.
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Benjamin J. Seward Esq.
Chautauqua Land Office
Westfield.
BATAVIA N.Y. MAR 23
Type: postmark
Name: William Seward
Birth: 1801-05-16
Death: 1872-10-10
March 22, 1838
Batavia March 22nd 1838
My dear Jennings,
I was able to send you only a hurried note yesterday.
My journey here had something more than its usual share of troubles. Mr Rum- sey
Person
Place
journey. But with diligent exertion we were able to get no further then
a miserable tavern four miles short, when the night became so dark
that we could go no further. We slept as we might, and next day reached
Silver Creek at nine o'clock. Oliver Lee
Person
who passed to another man (his son and the son to me) the fifty dollar
counterfeit bill which I lent to Mr Kibbes
Person
the case a clear one I wrote to the offender that if he did not
pay $50. good money for it first within ten days I would prosecute
him in a way which would be neither pleasant or profitable.
Bear this in mind if you can that when I go next to Chautauqua
Place
I may redeem my promise. I forget the individual now but
he lives in Hanover
Place
After plodding until two o'clock through the
mud we overtook the stage wagon at Evans
Place
from Buffalo
Place
There were to be two coaches to leave at 10 that evening and none
until ten the next evening. But the two stages were to carry ten
convicts under the charge of two sheriffs to Auburn
Place
at this association conjuring up all imaginable associations of dis-
gust but at last submitted to the necessity, and having packed one
coach with the least offensive five, I set off at 10. The smell of the
dungeon hung round the convicts and I was obliged to ride with
my head out of the coach. Their conversation was still more offensive
than their dress. We rode six miles when a back wheel came off
and the coach came down violently. We had the villains out and
raised the coach but lo the very tip end of the axletree had broken
off, so that we could in no way fasten the wheel. After walking a mile
watching the wheel we rigged a rail outside of & proping against
the wheel and this continued our journey two miles further when
the accident recurred causing the driver and an outside passenger
to fall off by which misfortune they suffered a severe bruising.
We never left our ship and the Sheriff drove his crew of chained
convicts before him. I could of course not refuse to aid him in
this disgusting business. In that way we arrived at Williamsville
Place
There they got into the tavern and drank and gloried in their
crimes until I was no longer able to endure my position. The
stage driver got a wagon, loaded it with his precious cargo
and I left them setting out at two in the morning. After sleep
& breakfast I hired a wagon & horses for $10, to bring me here –
as I supposed I was undoubtedly detaining Rathbone
Person
Person
here. All day from 9 AM to 8 PM I rode in a very cold damp
day and then arrived here four hours after the coach I had
abandoned. Mrs Carys
Person
other needful appliances restored me.
Schermerhorn was waiting, Cary
Person
Person
wrote me he could not come.
I submitted my papers yesterday to the Board and after a mor-
nings discussion and dinner handed them all to Mr P J. Van Hall
Person
tions I made were anticipated. We argued the matter until
we eventually understood each other. Mr Van Hall has just
given me his ultimatum. Which is to assume my account and add
interest at two per cent from 1 January lost $2500. To which
I have assented. Tomorrow morning I go on to Auburn. Your papers
if they come here will follow me to Auburn. All is settled
here between us & the Holland Company, without further papers.
Friday Afternoon.
My dear J. I have your letter & thank you for your prompt
attention to my request about Mr. Lewis
Person
ment I think will be satisfactory.
I am annoyed at your morbid feelings about the $800.
I do not see how you magnify it into a mole hill. The matter
is now reduced to a certainty that the estate will pay me a
handsome profit in any event, and that it will be made
forthcoming. The salary I proposed you should take is no
otherwise material except as not diminishing my means to pay
for a property abundent to compensate you for all your
time trouble outlay &c. I have not the most remote concep-
tion how you can suppose that because you have expended
$800 more than $1200 you are thereby impoverished. As to that
and the small note I have against you I am sure I am able
to without them. I would have proposed to you (to
relieve you of all solicitude on that subject) to reduce the
affair to a shape in which these debts would be extinguished
if it had not been that I could not do it without giving the matter
a shape in which it might embarrass the arrangement I propose for your
family. Besides this it is so near a close now that I see no reason to fear
we shall divide the property and my interest come to me substantially
paid for so that I can at once make with you an arrangement entirely
satisfactory to you. I pray that you do not give yourself an[ y ]
Supplied
or vexation about this matter. The schedules made by Humphreys
Person
will be as soon as received here examined. Write to me at Auburn
until the first day of April next.
Your own brother
W.H.S.
Benjamin J. Seward Esq.
Chautauqua Land Office
Westfield.
BATAVIA N.Y. MAR 23
Stamp
Person
date:
Thursday, March 22, 1838
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